Re: Another SPAM doubt

From: Covington, Chris (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 15:47:26 EST

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    On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:45:54AM -0200, Sergio Ferreira wrote:
    > Hi List,
    >
    > I still setting SPAM stuffs at my setup, now I have one doubt about some
    > third parts tools. I have known about integration of Postfix and Clamav,
    > Spamassassim too, instead of Postfix + Clamav + Amavis + Spamassassin.
    > Anyone had experienced boths cases for help me with the advantages and the
    > disadvantages between them?
    > Without Amavis my server will be trustworth too? My question is about should
    > I use Amavis or not? Some people says It is more easy to manage these things
    > with Amavis, It is true?
    >
    > Any conserning will be very wellcome to make things more clear.

    I'd like to weigh in here. We used SpamAssassin/amavisd-new for about 2
    or 3 years and the results were acceptable, the setup was fairly
    straightforward and the overhead was low. It's a good beginner's setup
    that will take care of 90-95% of your spam problems. The problem with SA
    (and most commercial products, but I digress) is primarily that it's a
    one-size-fits-all solution, and secondarily: it assumes English as the
    primary language of all spam, it has a lot network test latency, it
    primarily adapts through new versions containing new rulesets, etc.
    (For instance, with our population medicine, nutrition & health
    enhancement are integral parts of every day business, not spam!)
    Network tests help SA a little in this regard, but in many ways it's a
    static system that waits for the next release to be more effective, and
    its efficacy drops over time until the next version, etc.

    In the last few months we've preserved amavisd-new to do virus scanning /
    attachment blocking, removed SpamAssassin, and we've added DSPAM which
    does the anti-spam. DSPAM is fairly difficult to setup and understand
    (the documentation is sparse) but it's very effective and adaptive.
    DSPAM is also more of a resource hog: we have a 400MB or so global MySQL
    database compared to SA's small-footprint client installation. This
    database contains 30,000 or so messages in the spam corpus and 40,000
    or so in the ham corpus. The message scanning times are faster, but
    the resources required are much higher. With all that said, it's an
    excellent solution. It's highly accurate (we're at 98.87% right now,
    this constantly gets better): The database is specially-tailored to
    our users' email patterns, and our users continually update it themselves
    by forwarding false positives and negatives to training addresses.
    So if you have the patience, skills and hardware required to use
    DSPAM, go for it!

    ---
    Chris Covington
    IT
    Plus One Health Management
    75 Maiden Lane Suite 801
    NY, NY 10038
    646-312-6269
    http://www.plusoneactive.com
    !DSPAM:1,438f6162289285153766755!
    

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