Re: [OT] Dns servers

From: Craig Sanders (no email)
Date: Sat Jan 01 2005 - 17:57:55 EST

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    On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 01:37:57PM +0000, Bennett Todd wrote:
    > 2005-01-01T10:55:23 Craig Sanders:
    > > probably the three most important things missing are no tcp:53,
    > > [...]
    >
    > You must be repeating someone else's uninformed criticism. djbdns of
    > course supports tcp, always has, that's a basic requirement for
    > either of the dns protocols.

    no, i examined it myself a few years ago.

    > > [...] no axfr, [...]
    >
    > always had that, too, client and server.

    "always" isn't correct.

    if it has these things now, it didn't back then.

    btw, the manually-operated axfr-get doesn't cut it. even now it still can't
    use axfr to automatically secondary a domain, and it ignores NOTIFY.

    > > [...] and no ability to parse or use bind zonefiles.
    >
    > That, I think, can be forgiven, considering what a lousy,
    > error-prone format it is, how much code is consumed trying to parse
    > it, and that each major implementation parses it differently.

    that's a complete load of crap. next you'll be repeating bernstein's nonsense
    that his tinydns format is "human-readable".

    > When you need to work with BIND format zone data, find out which
    > version of BIND it's known to work with, use a temporary run of
    > that version of BIND to parse it and publish it for axfr, then zone
    > transfer it to tinydns-data's format with axfr-get.

    if i've got to use bind to make djbdns work properly, why not just use
    bind?

    > > > djbdns implements a useful and safe subset, correctly.
    > >
    > > except for the bits that he doesnt like....which especially includes
    > > anything that facilitates inter-operation with non-djb software.
    >
    > Bizarre. I've got to assume you haven't tried to use it or read
    > anything about it, to make statements like this. Almost no install

    you'd be assuming wrong, then. my loathing of it is *precisely* because i
    tried to use it as a replacement for bind, and ran headlong into djb's
    usual idiocies - bizarro-world configuration, crappy startup & reload system,
    squillions of tiny & magic(*) config files with only one config element each,
    and his insistence that i throw away years of work and experience to
    re-implement everything in his One True Way.

    (*) i.e. mere presence of a file with a particular name enabled a feature.
    this is brain-damaged. amongst other problems, it makes it impossible to
    comment-out a feature while you're trying something new, you have to delete it
    rather than just comment it out as a reminder of what the config used to be.

    craig

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