Re: virtual_maps, duplicate emails

From: m (m at telerama dot com)
Date: Sun Aug 01 2004 - 16:38:01 EDT


I had avoided jumping into this fray until now.

1.) I'm not Wietse's "defender", nor am I "dating him".

2.) The purpose of the list is to improve the usability of the program.

3.) If you have such great experience in using open-source software, then
you should already know that common list etiquette is to FIRST READ ALL THE
DOCUMENTATION. Did you try a Google search?

4.) "Go read this & that" is because the documentation about the feature is
quite clear, and sometimes missed.

5.) Wietse doesn't have an "elitist" attitude! Sometimes he is a little
snippy. I've posted a few stupid questions to the list myself. Wietse is
quite busy -- not only is he continuing to develop Postfix, but he has other
projects on the burner, too (he does have a "real job" for IBM). Cut the
man some slack -- he could just say "Fuck the list and fuck you, too!", and
have NO documentation at all (which seems to be the model for many other
open-source programs).

If you are unable to read the documentation, then you should get software
with a service & support contract and call for help. My company provides
this sort of support for Postfix installations (among other things). If
you'd like, I'm sure we could come to terms for a support contract.

6.) This list has been VERY helpful to me! I'm an IT professional -- a
freelancer -- so I get paid for doing installations, etcetera, and when
things don't work, I don't get paid. I often feel a bit guilty that other
people are taking time from their day to help me. When I can, I do the same
for others. You're attacking some quite generous people -- and you owe the
list an apology.

7.) I'm a FreeBSD committer. I can tell you that your attitude would have
you off any of the FreeBSD lists in a hurry. I'm surprised Wietse hasn't
dropped you from this list yet ... but I'd guess if you keep it up, it will
happen soon enough.

That's all I have to say for the moment.

--
Dr. Mark J. Nernberg
> From: probsd org <>
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:21:17 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Matt <>
> Cc: <>
> Subject: Re: virtual_maps, duplicate emails
> 
>  
>>  Now, if you could please refrain from any further
>> derogatory remarks?
>> 
>> Matt
> 
> Now this is funny,  the identified " bad person "  aka
> : me is bad because I used deragatory comments.
> 
> BUT, the other posters who you agree with, when using
> derogatory comments, this is ok.
> 
> If ya'll are the future of Open Source, god help you
> 
> I'll stop when the other bitches stop
> 
> 
> 
> 
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