From: Peter H. Coffin (no email)
Date: Sun Jan 04 2004 - 21:06:39 EST
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 07:38:11PM -0600, Jay Maynard wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 07:29:19PM -0600, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
> > We've been through this before, Jay. (: A mail server doesn't have to
> > live in your den to be yours. And all the ISPs that serve your town do
> > provide relay services for their customers, and will cheerfully send
> > your mail to Greg for you.
>
> Please try to be a little consistent, Peter...sending this right after
> posting a message extolling the virtues of running your own MTA is a bit of
> a mixed message.
Of course it was a mixed message. I was specifically explaining that
running an MTA is a mixed situation. Receiving email is the important
part, the "inalienable part", if there's anything inalienable at all
about email. Sending is a different matter entirely.
> Neither of the available ISPs runs their service well enough for me to
> trust it. They do good just to provide basic connectivity. When you
> live in a town of 11,000 that's the biggest one for 50 miles in any
> direction, you learn to live with things like that.
>
> Now, if there was a way to configure Postfix to try resending through
> a smarthost after receiving a rejection on an attempt to send
> mail, I'd use their server purely as a fallback...but not ever as
> a primary relay. Would you trust an ISP that can't even keep their
> DNS servers running properly to relay your outbound mail? (That's
> the other one.) Or an ISP that refuses to set up reverse DNS to your
> specifications? (Since, after all, everyone here claims that that's
> part of their job.) (Yes, Greg, I'm going to call them tomorrow, just
> in case they've changed their policy.)
There's certainly a manual way: when you get something back that says
"We don't accept mail from you because of DNS/DUL/whatever reasons", you
throw that domain into your transport_maps file, just like we discussed
ad nauseum back in July when AOL started blocking what they thought were
dynamic IPs. Greg's domain even ended up being part of the example. See
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2003-07/1549.html
> As for "it doesn't have to live in your den to be yours", where would
> you suggest I find a hosting service that 1) allows me to run the
> box, 2) isn't a spamhaus, and 3) won't charge me $100/month for the
> privilege?
If I could find that, I'd not have the box in my den either. I did move
house to get within a nice distance of the correct telco CO to get to be
a customer of the provider that bills me for my DSL. Satellite service
does fit your pricing criteria, though.
--
36. I will not imprison members of the same party in the same cell block, let
alone the same cell. If they are important prisoners, I will keep the only
key to the cell door on my person instead of handing out copies to every
bottom-rung guard in the prison. --Peter Anspach's Evil Overlord List
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