From: Jim Seymour (no email)
Date: Fri Aug 01 2003 - 17:32:58 EDT
Chateauneuf <> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:48, Jim Seymour wrote:
[snip]
> > The
> > product is designed for IT people to deploy. It's not M$ Office.
> > It's an MTA.
>
> Are you speaking with authority with respect to the intent of the
> project?
Not as an "authority," as only Wietse can speak authoritatively wrt the
intent of his project. It was an assertion based on observation.
It would seem Wietse's since confirmed that ;).
> I thought that the intent was a broader user base but that
> opinion is not formed on anything substantive.
For some value of "user," yes. But as Wietse's since pointed out:
Said "users" are expected to have a minimal degree of familiarity with
things technical, or somewhere/somehow gain that familiarity. It is
neither Wietse's nor my, nor anybody else's here, *responsibility* to
educate people. We do what we do wrt Postfix out of the goodness of
our collective hearts, you see?
I contribute what I contribute as a way of trying to do *my* share.
>
> > Chateauneuf: Maybe *you'd* care to address this (Robin apparently
> > wasn't. <snipped simply for brevity>
>
[snip]
>
> As for "dissing" people, there are some very fragile egos around here.
[snip]
That is the nature of talented people in all fields of endeavor, or
hadn't you noticed? That's not an excuse, it simply *is*. I've worked
with computer hardware and software designers and engineers for neigh
on 25 years, now. (Even made the mistake of trying to "manage" a
software development team. Once. Never again!) I've generally found
that the more talented, the more... uhm... *ahem* "twitchy" (?), shall
we say? It isn't arrogance so much as impatience, is my take on it.
>
> With all due respect there have been times when some of the
> professionals here have seemingly been intentionally esoteric or
> obfuscatory.
[snip]
Possible but unlikely, IMO. IME: Engineers and designers are generally
simply lousy at documentation. This is why we have professional
technical writers. Those are the people that know how to bridge the
gap. Unfortunately, unlike software developers, technical writers
don't often seem inclined to "give it away." So I'm afraid y'all are
gonna have to work with what the engineers and designers create.
>
> But what your question really boils down to is the arrogance associated
> with the belief that we - or anyone - can get an MTA up and running
> without employing a professional.
[snip]
Not at all. If you can do it: More power to you.
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