Re: UCE: check if mail originates from the sender address

From: Matthias Andree (no email)
Date: Sun Sep 01 2002 - 08:44:06 EDT


Friedrisch Muller <> writes:

> I read at
> http://www.monkeys.com/anti-spam/filtering/additions.html
> that Monkeys have created a wonderful patch for
> Postfix that checks if the senders from-address
> matches the first sending server which seem to be an
> easy way to reduce _a lot_ of spam with sender from
> addresses like Hotmail, Yahoo, Excite, and so on...

The approach is not going to work.

a) misconfigured and trivial (alias-type) mailing lists that use the
   original envelope sender will be caught

b) you won't ever get to see my mail as soon as one of my sender domains
   is listed, because my envelope sender is the same as my From: address
   usually, but I send it from a T-Online dialup pool -- and if that's
   not working for rampant DUL rejections, I'll relay it through
   Dortmund University (SMTP AUTH, not to worry about) -- which may well
   fail because I'm using a e-technik.uni-dortmund.de domain and the
   relaying host has a hrz.uni-dortmund.de domain, or because I use one
   of my freemailer sender addresses.

Using the respective relay that matches the From: or envelope sender
address is not going to work, because a) Postfix' support of this is
undocumented as of now, b) I cannot look at the ISP's mail queue, mail
logs and I have no control over their retry schedule and queue ordering
and whether they tune their queue runner or not. Usually, sending mail
directly is faster and more reliable.

I will NOT work around rampant spam filtering usually unless I know you.

-- 
Matthias Andree
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