From: Marshall Eubanks (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 03 2008 - 10:08:44 EST
On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Eric Van Tol wrote:
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>> Let's put it another 'nother way.
>> Would an end user get better connectivity by buying from a
>> reseller of transit? In other words, buying transit from
>> a network which also buys transit. Presumably up near the
>> top of the chain (Tier 1 vicinity), that transit reseller
>> has a lot of peering in place with other folks in the same
>> neighborhood (Tier 1 vicinity). But as long as a network
>> is a transit reseller (i.e. they buy transit), then they
>> are less likely to suffer from partition events caused
>> by fractious peering negotiations.
>> --Michael Dillon
> Can anyone explain to me why end users find it so important to label
> carriers as "Tier 1" or "Tier 2"?
In my experience, end users generally don't know and almost never
care. It's the sales people who talk about tiers.
> The prevailing theory in the heads of prospective customers is that
> a "Tier 1" is somehow inherently better than a "Tier 2" (or lower),
> even though they don't quite understand the concepts behind why the
> "Tier" designation even exist(s/ed). These labels, at least to me,
> are no longer very relevant in today's internet world. In fact,
> would anyone agree that being a "Tier 1", as Cogent believes
> themselves to be, leaves that network in a very painful position
> when things like their frequent peering disputes happen?
> For an NSP, it's obviously a "good thing" to be SFI-only, as in
> theory, it _should_ lower your costs. YMMV, as mentioned in a
> previous thread. However, what does it really matter to an end-
> user, especially if they are biased towards using "Tier 1" networks
> only? Why does a network who purchases transit give the impression
> to end users that that network's internet genitalia is somehow
> smaller than, say, Verizon or AT&T? I can see merit in touting the
> size and coverage of the actual network, but it's always been my
> understanding that this is not the true definition of the tiered