Re: YAY! Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

From: Mark Foo (no email)
Date: Wed Sep 24 2008 - 03:27:50 EDT

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    Russell:

    Ferg was just being coy -- what you don't understand is there are about 3 other
    security mailing lists plotting to TAKE YOUR SERVICE DOWN. You FAIL. Law
    Enforcement might not take action against you (but appear to be interested now),
    but the community can. GET OFF THE NET WITH YOUR MALWARE!

    You mistake me for someone who believes you pack of lies! Don't you
    understand each
    time you post to this list gives those of us who know the opportunity
    to post MORE EVIDENCE
    of your MALWARE?

    You disconnected Hostfresh and think that's the extent of your cimes?
    Gimme a break.
    Only those who are easily socially engineered would believe your
    pathetic claims of innocence.
    You've BEEN HOSTING MALWARE since 2003 -- SEE Nanog post:

    Re: The in-your-face hijacking example
    http://www.irbs.net/internet/nanog/0305/0038.html

    > Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to state to the public.

    Answer Ferg's question -- Why are you moving to CERNAL? Do you think this
    is going to work? That's just another of Emil's networks.

    > We're on a rocky road right now. But it IS starting to smooth out.

    That's just the calm before the storm.

    Go ahead and post a response to each of these allegations:

    Cybercrime's US Hosts
    http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=636

    Report Slams U.S. Host as Major Source of Badware
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/08/report_slams_us_host_as_major.html?nav=rss_blog

    A Superlative Scam and Spam Site Registrar
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/09/estdomains.html?nav=rss_blog

    ICANN cast as online scam enabler
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/cyber_crime_reports/

    'Malware-friendly' Intercage back with the living
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/24/intercage_back_online/

    On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Russell Mitchell <> wrote:
    >
    > Hello John Doe,
    >
    > I welcome any further comments you have.
    > We have to get past people such as yourself, and your blasphemous and false statements.
    >
    > This is the same issue with the recent media and self-proclaimed "Security Researchers". Fly-by-night mind you.
    >
    > To help you out in your claims:
    > Yes, we did house a client whom had quite a run with their client's from various locations, such as Russia.
    > That Client is no longer hosted on our network. I myself spent all of monday afternoon, night, and tuesday morning shutting off EVERY machine they had leased in our Billing System. I'm currently working to scan further and see if there's anything I may have missed.
    >
    > Yes, Russia is very well known for Virus and Malware writer's.
    >
    > Yes, we have had issues with malware distribution from our network.
    > This was directly and near singularly related to the former client of ours. We did have another client, Hostfresh, whom had their share of malware issues.
    >
    > Both have been completely and effectively removed. The server's leased to both of them have been canceled, and their machines have been shutoff.
    >
    > Let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to state to the public.
    > We're on a rocky road right now. But it IS starting to smooth out.
    >
    > Thank you for your time. Have a great day.
    > ---
    > Russell Mitchell
    >
    > InterCage, Inc.
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: Mark Foo <>
    > To: Bruce Williams <>
    > Cc: Christopher Morrow <>; ; Joe Greco <>
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:08:21 PM
    > Subject: Re: YAY! Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer
    >
    > NANOG:
    >
    > Look, the people posting here who are trashing Intercage are pure security
    > analysts -- they
    > know and understand the evil that is Intercage. STOP TRYING TO ASSIST
    > INTERCAGE
    > -- you are effectively aiding and abetting the enemy.
    >
    > Intercage/Atrivo hosts the malware c&c botnets that DDoS your systems and
    > networks.
    >
    > Intercage/Atrivo hosts the spyware that compromises your users' passwords.
    >
    > Intercage/Atrivo hosts the adware that slows your customers' machines.
    >
    > Don't take my word for it, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH:
    > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=intercage+malware
    >
    > You don't get called the ***American RBN*** for hosting a couple bad
    > machines. They
    > have and will continue to host much of the malware pumped out of America.
    > THEY
    > ARE NOT YOUR COMRADES..
    >
    > These people represent the most HIGHLY ORGANZIED CRIME you will ever
    > come across. Most people were afraid to speak out against them until this
    > recent ground swell.
    >
    > This is the MALWARE CARTEL. GET THE PICTURE?
    >
    > Many links have been posted here that prove this already -- instead of
    > asking
    > what customers they cut off, let them show WHAT CUSTOMERS ARE LEGIT--
    > because there are NONE.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > >> I would suggest a different Step 1. Instead of killing power, simply
    > > >> isolate the affected machine. This might be as simple as putting up a
    > > >> firewall rule or two, if it is simply sending outgoing SMTP spam, or
    > > > it's probably easiest (depending on the network gear of course) to
    > > > just put the lan port into an isolated VLAN. It's not the 100%
    > > > solution (some badness rm's itself once it loses connectivity to the
    > > > internets) but it'd make things simpler for the client/LEA when they
    > > > need to figure out what happened.
    > > >
    > > > -chris
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


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