Re: amazonaws.com?

From: Jay R. Ashworth (no email)
Date: Wed Jun 04 2008 - 13:25:28 EDT

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    On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:10:40AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
    > Barry Shein wrote:
    > > > Equating port 25 use with domestic terrorism is specious.
    > > >
    > > > Ammonium nitrate requires requires some care in handling regardless of
    > > > your intentions,see for exmple the oppau or texas city disasters.
    > >
    > >And how different is that from the million+ strong zombie botnets? Who
    > >owns (not pwns) those zombie'd systems and what were their intentions?
    >
    > Well let's see. The texas city disaster is/was considered the worst
    > industrial accident in american history. 581 people killed by an
    > explosive yield of about 2 kilotons. The secondary effects includes
    > fires in many of the chemical facilities in Galveston and a swath of
    > destruction that reached up to 40 miles inland...
    >
    > http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html
    >
    > So no, I don't think internet attached hosts can casually equated with
    > the destructive potential of a pile of fertilizer at least not in the
    > context described.

    One word: SCADA.

    Yes, in point of fact, I think it *is* reasonable to evaluate potential
    threats to "just some PCs getting pwned" in terms of physical damage
    on grander scales.

    It's not just about spam, or fraudulent credit charges.

    Cheers,
    -- jra

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