[admin] Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

From: Alex Pilosov (no email)
Date: Mon Feb 04 2008 - 04:29:51 EST

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    This conversation is quickly spinning into discussion of politics and
    terrorism.

    Reminder to all, please stick to the *operational* aspects of this thread.

    -alex [NANOG MLC Chair]

    On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Patrick Clochesy wrote:

    > I disagree... I think "information warfare tactic" could easily be
    > terrorism, though I can't see why this particular event could/would be
    > terrorism.
    >
    > Disrupting a major network like the Internet WITHIN the US could
    > definitely be a form of terrorism... I think anything which maliciously
    > disrupts a huge portions of a nation's day-to-day activities would be
    > cause for concern for many folk, especially the telecommunications
    > infrastructure. However, I'm not sure what the mindset of the terrorist
    > would be even if they fully succeeded what is proposed would be the
    > terrorist's plan - even if we lost totally connectivity with the middle
    > east, or even what's considered "friendly" countries... as long as the
    > information is flowing at home, nobody's going to be filling their
    > swimming pools full of drinking water.
    >
    > I imagine the mindset would be different if you were a small country
    > loosing a substantial portion of it's communication channels with the
    > outside world...
    >
    > -Patrick
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Mark Newton" <>
    > To: "Martin Hannigan" <>
    > Cc: "Sean Donelan" <>,
    > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 11:12:46 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
    > Subject: Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)
    >
    >
    >
    > On 04/02/2008, at 4:38 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
    >
    > > I agree with Rod Beck as far as the speculations go. It could be
    > > terror,
    >
    > Well, no, it couldn't be. Nobody is being terrorized by this. How
    > can it possibly be a terrorist incident?
    >
    > If it's deliberate, it might be described as an "information warfare
    > tactic." But not terrorism.
    >
    > (visions of some guy sitting a in cave with a pair of wet boltcutters
    > laughing maniacally to himself, cackling, "Ha-ha! Now their daytraders
    > will get upset, and teenagers will get their porn _slower_! Die
    > American scum!" Doesn't really work, does it?)
    >
    > Politicians have succeeded in watering down the definition of the word
    > "terrorism" to the point where it no longer has any meaning. But we're
    > rational adults, not politicians, right? If we can't get it right,
    > who will?
    >
    > - mark
    >
    >
    >


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