Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

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Date: Thu Jan 24 2008 - 23:39:53 EST

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    >I dunno. I think I have a pretty good guess of who 192.159.10.227 is, or
    >at least who it was as of 14:35 -0800 today.

    Well, let me ask you you think 171.70.120.60 is. I'll give you a hint;
    at this instant, there are 72 of us.

    Here's another question. Whom would you suspect 171.71.241.89 is? At
    this point in time, I am in Barcelona; if I were home, that would be my
    address as you would see it, but my address as I would see it would be
    in 10.32.244.216/29. There might be several hundred people you would
    see using 171.71.241.89;

    One of the big issues with the Tsinghua SAVA proposal in the IETF is
    specifically the confusion of the application layer with the IP layer.
    They propose to embed personal identity into the IP address, and in
    that there are a number of issues. Internet Address != application
    layer identification.

    What we can do with IP addresses is conclude that the user of the
    machine with an address is likely to be one of its usual users. We
    can't say that with 100% certainty, because there are any number of
    ways people can get "unusual" access. But even so, if one can show a
    pattern of usage, the usual suspects can probably figure out which of
    them, or what other "unusual" user, might have done this or that.

    That is the model forensic analysts follow. And the address is personal
    information to the extent that it limits the set of usual suspects to a
    set that includes you or I.


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