RE: Cost per prefix [was: request for help w/ ATT and terminology]

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Date: Tue Jan 22 2008 - 12:28:11 EST

  • Next message: Michael K. Smith - Adhost: "RE: Cost per prefix [was: request for help w/ ATT and terminology]"

    William Herrin wrote:
    > Right now we rely on ARIN and the RIRs to artificially suppress the
    > growth of the prefix count and with it the availability of PI space.
    > This is a Really Bad Thing on so many levels, but absent a viable
    > market-based solution to the problem, authority-based rationing is
    > really the only thing we can do.
    >
    > If we can determine the cost to announce a prefix then we could
    > develop a market-based solution to the problem... One where instead of
    > suppressing the prefix count and dealing with it as business overhead,
    > we GET PAID for announcing and propagating prefixes.

    Hi, I'm Google/Yahoo/Microsoft/AT&T/AOL/Sprint/etc. and I plan to annnounce
    only /24's and I refuse to pay you to propagate those routes. Are you
    really going to drop those routes? Bottom line here is you're going to
    have trouble getting the big content providers to buy in, and you're going
    to have an equally tough time convincing the major carriers that they should
    essentially raise their rates for particular clients. So who exactly is
    going to pay and how are you going to convince them they should? If
    provider X tells me they're going to charge me $X per prefix I want them to
    propagate, I'll just go with provider Y. You're going to need 100% buy-in.

    Your solution here is merely a band-aid designed to disguise the actual
    problem. Growing prefix count is largely a symptom of missing BGP
    functionality. Fix or replace BGP in such a way that we can better control
    the flow of incoming traffic without needing hacks like announcing smaller
    subnets and prepending and the problem goes away without introducing extra
    fees and beauracracy like you're suggesting.

    Andrew Cruse


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