Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

From: Joe Greco (no email)
Date: Sun Jan 20 2008 - 12:06:23 EST

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    > > However, if you look, all the prepaid plans that I've seen look
    > > suspiciously
    > > like predatory pricing. The price per minute is substantially
    > > higher than
    > > an equivalent minute on a conventional plan. Picking on AT&T, for a
    > > minute,
    > > here, look at their monthly GoPhone prepaid plan, $39.99/300
    > > anytime, vs
    > > $39.99/450 minutes for the normal. If anything, the phone company
    > > is not
    > > extending you any credit, and has actually collected your cash in
    > > advance,
    > > so the prepaid minutes ought to be /cheaper/.
    >
    > I disagree. Ever heard of volume discounts?
    >
    > Picking on at&t again, a typical iPhone user signs up for 24 months @ ~
    > $100/month, _after_ a credit check to prove they are good for it or
    > plunking down a hefty deposit.
    >
    > Compare that $2.4 kilo-bux to the $40-one-time payment by a pre-paid
    > user. Or, to be more far, how about $960 ($40/month for voice only)
    > compared to $40 one-time?
    >
    > Hell yes I expect more minutes per dollar on my long-term contract.
    >
    > Hrmm, wonder if someone will offer pay-as-you-go broadband @ $XXX (or
    > $0.XXX) per gigabyte?

    Actually, I was fairly careful, and I picked monthly recurring plans in
    both cases. The typical prepaid user is NOT going to pay a "$40-one-
    time" payment, because the initial cost of the phone is going to be a
    deterrent from simply ditching the phone after $40 is spent.

    The lock-in of contracts is typically done to guarantee that the cell
    phone which they make you buy is paid for, and it is perfectly possible
    (though somewhat roundabout) to get the cheaper postpaid plan without a
    long contract - assuming you meet their "creditworthiness" guidelines.
    Even without that, once you've gone past your one or two year commitment,
    you continue at that same rate, so we can still note that the economics
    are interesting.

    The iPhone seems to be some sort of odd case, where we're not quite sure
    whether there's money going back and forth between AT&T and Apple behind
    the scenes to subsidize the cost of the phones (or I may have missed the
    news). So talking about your iPhone is pretty much like comparing Apples
    and oranges, and yes, you set yourself up for that one.

    To put it another way, they do not give you a better price per minute if
    you go and deposit $2400 in your prepaid account. You can use your volume
    discount argument once you come up with a compelling explanation for that.
    ;-)

    ... JG

    -- 
    Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
    "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
    won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
    With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
    

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