Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

From: William Herrin (no email)
Date: Fri Jan 18 2008 - 19:32:44 EST

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    On Jan 18, 2008 4:16 PM, <> wrote:
    > Sooner or later, somebody is going to try to apply Google's
    > approach to hardware in a network backbone. Imagine a network
    > backbone with no Cisco or Juniper boxes in it, just lots of
    > commodity boxes with triple-redundancy everywhere (quintuple
    > in NFL cities).

    Michael,

    There's a missing piece here. You'd need a way to go from the 1-gige
    interfaces that commodity hardware can keep up with to the 10gige-plus
    interfaces that the backbone requires.

    Suppose you build 10-gige mux/demuxes for $2000 each so that you can
    break the backbone data rates down to 1gbps.

    The mux/demux would have one 10-gige port and 12 1-gige ports. Packets
    received on the 1-gige ports would be transmitted on the 10-gige port
    in the order received. Packets received on the 10-gige port would be
    transmitted on the 1-gige ports in a more or less round-robin fashion.
    Two of the 1-gige ports would always be configured as backups with the
    carrier held low until a piece of equipment attached to one of the
    active ports failed.

    You could then build a highly available 3 x 10gige port plus 22x1-gige
    port "router" with the following components:

    3 $2000 10gige mux/demuxes
    10 $3000 1U servers (packet forwarders, 5 gig-e ports each)
    1 $3000 1U server (BGP route manager, 2 gig-e ports)
    2 $3000 1U servers (hot spares, 5 gig-e ports each)
    2 $2000 24-port gig-e switch (interlink the 13 servers with redundancy)
    62 gig-e cables
    18 rack units

    $50,000 total. But you can start to get Cisco and Juniper routers with
    3 10-gige interfaces in the neighborhood of $50k and they neither take
    up 18 rack units nor consume as much electricity as those 13 servers.

    On the other hand, commodity memory is cheap. You could expand those
    1-gige software-based forwarders to handle 100M routes in the FIB for
    maybe another $10k. Since the theoretical limit for the count of
    prefixes /24 and shorter is less than 34M, that could be handy. A
    similar expansion in Cisco or Juniper big iron is not just expensive,
    its hard.

    And too, the notion of a Linux routing cluster is undeniably hot. :)

    Regards,
    Bill Herrin

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    William D. Herrin                    
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