RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

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Date: Fri Jan 18 2008 - 16:16:36 EST

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    > The problem in the ISP industry isn't lack of usage based
    > pricing. It's that the going rate for basic connectivity was
    > driven below that which is economically sustainable by the
    > ILECs when they engaged in predatory pricing to drive the
    > CLECs out of business in the late 90s. Now that they own the
    > market, they find that, having driven the prices down, they
    > can't raise them, so they are engaging in various subterfuges
    > that are designed to cover up the basic thing they are doing:
    > trying to charge more for the exact same service.

    Sooner or later, somebody is going to try to apply Google's
    approach to hardware in a network backbone. Imagine a network
    backbone with no Cisco or Juniper boxes in it, just lots of
    commodity boxes with triple-redundancy everywhere (quintuple
    in NFL cities).

    Vadim Antonov tried to build something like this into a backbone
    router, but the market for IP backbone equipment is so incredibly
    conservative, and the pricing was up there with the big boys, so
    he never had a chance at it.

    I don't know if Google is doing something like this between their
    data centers, but I think that the fundamental price of fiber is
    low enough that with commodity router/switches and triple the fiber
    miles, we can have a reliable IP packet moving service without
    jacking prices up.

    Even if prices do go up, it will be a short term thing because
    sooner or later, Google, or somebody who thinks as bold as they
    do, will build a true commodity packet-moving service, and the
    telecoms industry will fall back into the razor-thin margin
    utility sector where it belongs.

    I'm sure many of you will think I am crazy because you know just
    how much those high-speed ports cost and you can't see any letup
    in bandwidth growth. But the fact is that ports are not the fundamental
    components of routers. Chips are, and as we all know, chips keep
    getting smaller, cheaper, faster and more powerful. FPGAs, SOCs,
    multicore CPUs and so on. The company that cracks the Internet
    utility problem might even design and build their own devices rather
    than outsourcing that, at a high price, to the benevolent vendors.

    --Michael Dillon


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