RE: Assigning IPv6 /48's to CPE's?

From: Donald Stahl (no email)
Date: Thu Jan 03 2008 - 10:35:09 EST

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    >> That's 281,474,976,710,656 /48 customer networks. It's 16
    >> million times the number of class C's in the current IPv4
    >> Internet. Am I just not thinking large or long term enough?
    >
    > No, you are just counting wrong. When you are talking /48's
    > you are talking "number of bits of of subnet hierarchy", not
    > "pile of pebbles on the beach". If you read the ARIN IPv6 policy
    > you will see that they don't count /48's like pebbles, instead
    > they use something called the HD Ratio.
    I'm fully aware of HD ratio thanks :)

    My point was to give a rough approximation of the size difference here,
    not to talk about the specific numbers.

    > Basically, this recognizes that IP networks are not flat piles
    > of pebbles, but have a hierarchical aggregation structure in
    > them. At each level of aggregation, you have to do a fitting
    > exercise, where you fit what you have into a power of two
    > sized block. If you have 5 subnets that need to be aggregated
    > into a single higher level subnet, then you must use 3 bits
    > of your subnet hierarchy, even though those 3 bits could be
    > used for as many as 8 subnets.
    >
    > This is not waste. It is a fact imposed by the structure of
    > IPv6 (and IPv4) subnet addresses. In fact, when you "throw away"
    > subnets (addresses) like that, you are actually following a
    > prudent conservation policy. That's because this kind of bitwise
    > network addressing is cheaper to implement in hardware and
    > can be processed faster in hardware when doing things like
    > FIB lookups. That conserves MONEY and TIME which are vastly
    > more important to conserve than theoretical counting capacity
    > of a bitstring.
    I'm not sure what your point is here. I'm not remotely trying to argue
    this.

    You made a point about HD ratio-

    80% HD with 48 bits of network address still gives us
    300,000,000,000 /48 networks (unless my math is very wrong). Again, I'm
    not sure how we're going to use that up in 50 or 100 years, but I'm sure
    history will prove me a fool.

    -Don


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