Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...

From: Robert Bonomi (no email)
Date: Tue Nov 06 2007 - 18:41:33 EST

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    > From: Steve Atkins <>
    > Subject: Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...
    > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:07:14 -0800
    >
    > On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
    > >> From: Barry Shein <>
    > >> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:05:26 -0500
    > >> Subject: Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...
    > >>
    > >> Since this is verizon, one wonders why this has never been tried on
    > >> wrong, non-working phone numbers?
    > >>
    > >> Visit your local chevy dealer, no interest for 12 months! We're
    > >> sorry, the number you have reached....
    > >>
    > >> is it illegal?
    > >
    > > Before they could do it, they'd have to file -- and get approved -- a
    > > tariff with the public utilities commission in each state.
    > >
    > > I'm not at all sure how well such a proposal would fly there.
    >
    > There are already companies offering advertising funded
    > long distance service. And advertising funded VoIP dialtone.
    >
    > It's not like this is a hypothetical that's bizarrely out there.

    Then there was the day, circa 20 years ago now, that the ILEC modified
    'ring no answer' handling to insert a voice ad for their call-back service
    on every call that hadn't been answered after some small number (4??) of
    rings -- while continuing to ring the line. We had a large outgoing faxmodem
    bank to estabished clients, that would alarm and abort if it encountered
    'VOICE' on a _known_ data-only line.

    That was an 'interesting' day.

    *VERY* strong words were said to the telco -- to the effect of 'remove that
    misbegotten feature _RIGHT_NOW_, and never, *never* put any additionnal
    'feature' on any of our lines without our specific approval in writing.'

    We weren't the only people expressing extreme displeasure at the tactic.
    I don't know of any lawsuits actually filed -- I do have direct knowledge
    that several were under serious consideration.

    I believe that the State regulatory authority made them remove it as a
    'default', and deploy it only for lines where the owner made specific
    request for it to be added.


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