RE: Least Sucky Backbone Provider

From: David Hubbard (no email)
Date: Mon Nov 05 2007 - 11:32:52 EST

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    From: Gregory Boehnlein
    >
    > Good morning,
    > I'm considering dropping Cogent completely out of my
    > transit mix, as the number of outages and problems they
    > have been experienced over the past year has reached an
    > unacceptable level. It has gotten to the point that we
    > their BGP session is shutdown for longer periods than it
    > is on. Based on the availability of on-net fiber in my
    > facility, I have narrowed the field to the following
    > candidates:
    >
    > 1. Level 3
    > 2. MCI/Verizon
    > 3. AT&T
    >
    > I'm looking for comments from actual customers of the above
    > providers in relation to;
    >
    > 1. Network reliability and performance
    > 2. Responsiveness to outages
    > 3. Proactive notification of network maintenance
    >
    > 95% of our traffic mix is US48 in nature, so International
    > routes are not a huge decision point.

    We've got connectivity to all three of those plus Cogent
    and TWTC. Similar to what someone else posted, a much smaller
    percentage of our web hosting traffic seems to naturally prefer
    the other providers compared to Level 3. In some cases this
    has appeared to be forced as testing has shown other paths
    to be optimal in speed/delay, so we've forced traffic to some
    ISP's out through other providers manually rather than going
    over the L3 link. We still send the bulk of the traffic over
    L3 though as they are optimal in many cases and very reliable.

    In order of reliability, it's been Level 3, AT&T,
    UUNet, TWTC, Cogent with all providers being in use with us for
    at least 18 months. Level 3 and AT&T have always been
    very responsive and I've had success getting someone who knows
    BGP rather than a delayed call back. Never actually called
    UUNet since the few outages there have been have all been short
    enough that we just disabled the session for a bit and brought
    it back up with no issues so I can't say with experience how
    they actually are, although since I have never needed to call
    that is a good thing. If you're single homed probably best to
    find out more on their support if you were going to use them.

    TWTC I've had some issues with community filtering rules that
    we need dropping out with no warning and multi-hour delays
    getting someone who could help. Cogent, with their unusual
    inbound/outbound peering setup, seems to have an issue with
    their outbound side of our link regularly, every few weeks,
    while the inbound session has been up for 460 days. I also
    dislike their very poor community offerings, we can't do
    many of the things with them that we do with the others. We
    keep them and prepend three times on our advertisements to them
    so they are primarily just a link for traffic going to and from
    other Cogent customers.

    If the pricing is right, I think you'd be happy with either
    L3 or AT&T, probably MCI/Verizon/UUNet (or whoever owns them
    this week) too provided their support is good since we have
    found them to be pretty reliable.

    Dave


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