From: Farrell,Bob (no email)
Date: Thu Jun 14 2007 - 18:26:26 EDT
Agreed, but apples and oranges to me in that example. I had an engineer that worked for me, then left our org. He spent over 70K in equipment and training out of his own pocket. He failed the CCIE lab 3 times and finally got it as he kept trying on the fourth attempt. He now holds a position in NYC, makes a great living, and I still get accolades from the company he now works for how lucky they were to get him, and what a great job he is doing. His job entails a very high level of responsibility. I think certs provide two things. One, the ability to show that you know what you are doing ( agreed grey area on that one ) , but also the commitment for one to better themselves..... someone I would look at in the hiring process first. Any/every applicant still goes through a rigorous interview process, and the uncertified sometimes win out. Depends on the applicant.
From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy at psg dot com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:11 PM
Cc: surfer at mauigateway dot com; nanog at merit dot edu
Subject: Re: 24x7 Support Strategies
> You would if you knew how hard the tests were. ( not counting
> Microsoft of course)
the tests for a phd in physics are hard. and a very noted net engineer
we all know and deeply respect passed them (and did the thesis) and got
their phd in physics. but, as they said just a couple of weeks ago, and
on this very subject, "would you want me running a nuclear reactor?"