Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff)

From: Edward B. DREGER (eddy+public+)
Date: Mon Jun 04 2007 - 17:12:05 EDT

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    JS> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:20:38 -0700
    JS> From: Jim Shankland

    JS> If what you meant to say is that NAT provides no security benefits
    JS> that can't also be provided by other means, then I completely

    What Owen said is that "[t]here's no security gain from not having real
    IPs on machines". That is a true statement.

    Moreover...

    Provider: "We're seeing WormOfTheDay.W32 from 90.80.70.60."

    Downstream: "That's our firewall."

    Provider: "Chances are you have one or more compromised hosts behind
    your firewall."

    Downstream: "But we have 150 workstations. How do we find which
    one(s)?"

    Bonus points for finding downstreams who understand "NIDS", "monitor
    port", "state mapping tables", et cetera. :-)

    In the big picture, I submit that NAT *worsens* the security situation.
    Of course, the cost falls to "other people" -- a topic that inevitably
    launches a protracted thread.

    Eddy

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