Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

From: Donald Stahl (no email)
Date: Sat Jun 02 2007 - 17:07:17 EDT

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    > [Update to earlier stats: The current v4 prefix/AS ratio is 8.7.
    > However, there are ~11k ASes only announcing a single v4 route, so that means
    > the other ~14k ASes are at a v4 ratio of 14.3. In contrast, the current v6
    > ratio is 1.1 and the deaggregate rate is 1.2%.]
    This is more than a little frightening :(

    > The simplistic answer is that nearly all assigned/allocated blocks will be
    > minimum-sized, which means ISPs will be capable of filtering deaggregates if
    > they wish. Some folks have proposed allowing a few extra bits for routes
    > with short AS_PATHs to allow TE to extend a few ASes away without impacting
    > the entire community.
    This is an excellent solution- is there some reason people wouldn't want
    to implement it? It would seem to lead directly to a more heirarchical
    table.

    > justification for larger-than-minimum blocks. OTOH, the community may see
    > how small the v6 table is and decide that N bits of deaggregation wouldn't
    > hurt. After all, with ~25k ASes today, and router vendors claiming to be
    > able to handle 1M+ routes, it seems we could tolerate up to 5 bits of
    > deaggregation -- and 3 bits would leave us with a table smaller than v4 has
    > today.
    Combine this with the above system. Allow 2 bits of deagg anywhere but up
    to 4 bits for a short as_path for networks in the /48 range. Allow 3 bits
    for networks in the /32 range and up to 5 bits for a short as_path.
    (or whatever other numbers make sense).

    Either way we seem to be looking at a much smaller table as long as we
    decide on some sensible rules and actually stick to them. That is going
    to be the biggest problem though.

    -Don


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