barak-online.net icmp performance vs. traceroute/tcptraceroute, ssh, ipsec

From: Joe Maimon (no email)
Date: Sun May 06 2007 - 13:22:25 EDT

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    I was wondering if someone could shed some light on this little curiosity.

    US ping (sourced from different networks, including cable customer in
    NE) to the consumer grade residental israel dsl cpe (currently cisco
    871) look really nice and sweet, gotomypc works alright, consumer is
    enjoying overall internet experience.

    vnc from customer to US is a non-starter. ssh from US almost never
    works. ipsec performance is horrid.

    traceroute/tcptraceroute show packet loss and MUCH higher rtt than the
    corresponding direct pings on the reported hop entries.

    Is this some sort of massaging or plain just "faking it"? Or is such
    things merely net-urban myth?

    Here is a traceroute snippet

      8 dcr3-ge-0-2-1.newyork.savvis.net (204.70.193.98) 31.008 ms 31.539
    ms 31.248 ms
      9 208.173.129.14 (208.173.129.14) 62.847 ms 31.095 ms 30.690 ms
    10 barak-01814-nyk-b2.c.telia.net (213.248.83.2) 30.529 ms 30.820 ms
      30.495 ms
    11 * * po1-3.bk3-bb.013bk.net (212.150.232.214) 277.722 ms
    12 gi2-1.bk6-gw.013bk.net (212.150.234.94) 223.398 ms 235.616 ms
    214.551 ms
    13 * * gi11-24.bk6-acc3.013bk.net (212.29.206.37) 227.259 ms
    14 212.29.206.60 (212.29.206.60) 244.369 ms013bk.net * 246.271 ms
    15 89.1.148.230.dynamic.barak-online.net (89.1.148.230) 251.923 ms
    256.817 ms *

    Compared to ICMP echo

    root at jml03:~# ping 89.1.148.230
    PING 89.1.148.230 (89.1.148.230) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=190 ms

    --- 89.1.148.230 ping statistics ---
    1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 190.479/190.479/190.479/0.000 ms
    root at jml03:~# ping 89.1.148.230
    PING 89.1.148.230 (89.1.148.230) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=186 ms
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=196 ms
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=187 ms
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=181 ms
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=5 ttl=240 time=184 ms
    64 bytes from 89.1.148.230: icmp_seq=6 ttl=240 time=190 ms

    --- 89.1.148.230 ping statistics ---
    6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 181.572/187.756/196.277/4.685 ms
    root at jml03:~# ping 212.29.206.60
    PING 212.29.206.60 (212.29.206.60) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.60: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=179 ms
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.60: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=171 ms
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.60: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=171 ms

    --- 212.29.206.60 ping statistics ---
    3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 171.388/174.375/179.968/3.972 ms

    root at jml03:~# ping 212.29.206.37
    PING 212.29.206.37 (212.29.206.37) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.37: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=177 ms
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.37: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=176 ms
    64 bytes from 212.29.206.37: icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=175 ms

    --- 212.29.206.37 ping statistics ---
    3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1999ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 175.412/176.516/177.187/0.858 ms

    Joe


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