Re: Where are static bogon filters appropriate? was: 96.2.0.0/16 Bogons

From: Peter Dambier (no email)
Date: Sat Mar 03 2007 - 22:25:13 EST

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    http://www.completewhois.com/hijacked/files/203.27.251.0.txt

    http://www.completewhois.com/hijacked/index.htm

    This can proof the opposite.

    Malware comes from redirected allocated blocks, not from bogons.

    Kind regards
    Peter and Karin

    Sean Donelan wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Daniel Senie wrote:
    >
    >> How do you know, if you're the one being attacked and you have no idea
    >> if the originating network or their immediate upstream implemented
    >> BCP38? Shall we just discard ingress filtering? If few attacks are
    >> using it today, should we declare it no longer relevant? At the same
    >> time we should ask if we should be x-raying shoes at the airport,
    >> since there's only been one guy who tried to blow up his shoes. The
    >> larger security question is, "do you stop looking for old threats
    >> simply because they're not the most common threats?" How many CodeRed
    >> packets flow over the Internet on a typical day? I assure you it's not
    >> zero.
    >
    >
    > Show me the data.
    >
    > How many CodeRed packets originate from unallocated addresses?
    >
    > Is the proposal actually effective at detecting or protecting against
    > the threat? Or is it just a wasted effort for show?
    >
    > http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/kip_hawley_x-ray_remarks.shtm
    >
    > Instead of dropping packets with unallocated sources addresses, perhaps
    > backbones should shutdown interfaces they receive packets from
    > unallocated address space. Would this be more effective at both
    > stopping the sources of unallocated addresses; as well as sources that
    > spoof other addresses because the best way to prevent your interface
    > from being shutdown by backbone operators is to be certain you only
    > transmit packets with your source addresses.

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