Re: Where are static bogon filters appropriate? was: 96.2.0.0/16 Bogons

From: Sean Donelan (no email)
Date: Thu Mar 01 2007 - 17:31:04 EST

  • Next message: Roland Dobbins: "Re: Where are static bogon filters appropriate? was: 96.2.0.0/16 Bogons"

    On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Chris L. Morrow wrote:
    > So... again, are bogon filters 'in the core' useful? (call 'core' some
    > network not yours) The cisco auto-secure feature sure showed some fun
    > effects for this too, eh?

    We managed to fix that mis-application in later releases, but it has
    human dependency for that set of releases.

    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5207/products_field_notice09186a00803e13e9.shtml

    Like security "experts" the recommend blocking calls in the North American
    numbering plan to area code 809, or listing individual area codes in PBXs,
    its not a good idea unless you have full-time telephone LERG engineers.

    My rule of thumb is networks which use the "default" route probably should
    not implement bogon filters of reserved for future allocation addresses.
    Of course, they should still implement postive outbound traffic controls
    (i.e. BCP38++) on their own traffic. Even if the current engineers are
    careful, people change, but the new people may not know or forget about
    updating miscellanous routers especially in networks with "default"
    routing.

    Most RFC3330 Special Use Addresses which should not appear on the public
    Internet probably should be dropped crossing Internet provider boundaries
    unless specifically allowed, i.e. RFC1918, 127/8, 169.254/16, 224/4,
    240/4, etc. That does not include other addresses mentioned in RFC3330
    like 14/8, 24/8, 223.255.255.0/24 which are/will be routable on the
    public Internet. Most backbones already apply some filter like this to
    their BGP sessions and it can be optimized for hardware support even on
    very high traffic links. This is pretty low-risk, low-change traffic
    hygiene.

    So what about filtering reserved for future use "unallocated" IP addresses
    between "default-free" backbones? Is it enough of a real problem to
    overcome the other hurdle of making operational changes/errors in major
    backbone interconnects. Or is the current practice of whacking the
    traffic when it causes a problem, whether its from allocated or
    unallocated space sufficient?

    Personally, I think the current practice of whacking problem traffic from
    unallocated IP addresses seems sufficient. If people decide its enough of
    a problem that backbones must take the operational risk to change filters,
    then I think IANA must adopt a more predictable schedule. For example,
    IANA announces future allocations at each IETF meeting which will become
    allocated for use after the next IETF meeting to give backbones 3-4
    months to schedule the change.


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