Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

From: Alexander Harrowell (no email)
Date: Sun Jan 21 2007 - 16:19:04 EST

  • Next message: Rod Beck: "RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted"

    Gibbard:

    It seems like if there's an issue here it's that different parties
    have different
    self-interests, and those whose interests aren't being served

    > aren't passing on the costs to the decision makers. The users'
    > performance interests are served by getting the fastest downloads
    > possible. The ISP's financial interests would be served by their flat
    > rate customers getting their data from somewhere close by. If it becomes
    > enough of a problem that the ISPs are motivated to deal with it, one
    > approach would be to get the customers' financial interests better
    > aligned with their own, with differentiated billing for local and long
    > distance traffic.

    That could be seen as a confiscation of a major part of the value customers
    derive from ISPs.

    Perth, on the West Coast of Australia, claims to be the world's most
    > isolated "capitol" city (for some definition of capitol). Next closest is
    > probably Adelaide, at 1300 miles. Jakarta and Sydney are both 2,000 miles
    > away. Getting stuff, including data, in and out is expensive. Like
    > Seattle, Perth has many of its ISPs in the same downtown sky scraper, and
    > a very active exchange point in the building. It is much cheaper for ISPs
    > to hand off local traffic to each other than to hand off long distance
    > traffic to their far away transit providers. Like ISPs in a lot of
    > similar places, the ISPs in Perth charge their customers different rates
    > for cheap local bandwidth than for expensive long distance bandwidth.
    >
    > When I was in Perth a couple of years ago, I asked my usual questions
    > about what effect this billing arrangement was having on user behavior.
    > I was told about a Perth-only file sharing network. Using the same file
    > sharing networks as the rest of the world was expensive, as they would end
    > up hauling lots of data over the expensive long distance links and users
    > didn't want to pay for that. Instead, they'd put together their own,
    > which only allowed local users and thus guaranteed that uploads and
    > downloads would happen at cheap local rates.
    >
    > Googling for more information just now, what I found were lots of stories
    > about police raids, so I'm not sure if it's still operational.

    Brendan Behan: There is no situation that cannot be made worse by the
    presence of a policeman.

    -Steve
    >


  • Next message: Rod Beck: "RE: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted"





    Hosted Email Solutions

    Invaluement Anti-Spam DNSBLs



    Powered By FreeBSD   Powered By FreeBSD