Re: HTML email, was Re: Phishing and BGP Blackholing

From: Joe Provo (no email)
Date: Fri Jan 19 2007 - 11:59:56 EST

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    On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 07:05:25AM -0800, Matthew Black wrote:
    [snip]
    > This presupposes that corporations have a more significant claim
    > to domain names than individuals.

    Wrong; that kind of policy does -and did when enforced back in
    the InterNIC days when the generic TLDs were meaningful- no such
    thing.

    > Does anybody recall the fiasco
    > between ETOY.COM and ETOYS.COM? The former was created by an artist
    > years before the now defunct toy retailer. ETOYS' corporate bullying
    > took away the artist's longstanding domain claiming it might confuse
    > consumers.

    Wrong again; etoy won. I'm sure I'm not alone for having my copy
    of the toywar soundtrack and share[s].

    > That is the real problem.

    Post-NSF, the failure of a distributed directory naturally lead
    to the dns & whois being treated as one. In hindsight, any
    managed list wasn't what was needed, but certainly seemed natual
    to ma bell. A more dynamic, less-intermediated service *was*
    needed and the collective we worked around the problem,
    unfortunately pushing it down into the infrastructure. The
    thing that rankles me most is that is where it frankly shouldn't
    *matter*, but there was this great hammer so naturally 'we' could
    pound the nail...

    > Phishing problems will not be corrected without multinational
    [snip]

    ...reputation clearinghouses, one of the many drums long beaten
    by the anti-spam and general anti-abuse camp, is the answer. Like
    the other such drums before it, folks will listen well after it
    is too late and only after it directly affects them.

    Cheers,

    Joe

    -- 
                 RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
    

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