Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

From: Roland Dobbins (no email)
Date: Sat Jan 13 2007 - 21:11:32 EST

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    On Jan 13, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

    > Consumers, OTOH, want to buy _programs_, not _channels_.

    This is a very important point - perceived disintermediation,
    perceived unbundling, ad reduction/elimination, and timeshifting are
    the main reasons that DVRs are so popular (and now, placeshifting
    with things like Slingbox and Tivo2Go, though it's very early days in
    that regard). So, at least on the face of it, there appears to be a
    high degree of congruence between the things which make DVRs
    attractive and things which make P2P attractive.

    As to an earlier comment about video editing in order to remove ads,
    this is apparently the norm in the world of people who are heavy
    uploaders/crossloaders of video content via P2P systems. It seems
    there are different 'crews' who compete to produce a 'quality
    product' in terms of the quality of the encoding, compression,
    bundling/remixing, etc.; it's very reminiscent of the 'warez' scene
    in that regard.

    I believe that many of the people engaged in the above process do so
    because it's become a point of pride with them in the social circles
    they inhabit, again a la the warez community. It's an interesting
    question as to whether or not the energy and 'professional pride' of
    this group of people could somehow be harnessed in order to provide
    and distribute content legally (as almost all of what people really
    want seems to be infringing content under the current standard
    model), and monetized so that they receive compensation and
    essentially act as the packaging and distribution arm for content
    providers willing to try such a model. A related question is just
    how important the perceived social cachet of editing/rebundling/
    redistributing -infringing- content is to them, and whether
    normalizing this behavior from a legal standpoint would increase or
    decrease the motivation of the 'crews' to continue providing these
    services in a legitimized commercial environment.

    As a side note, it seems there's a growing phenomenon of 'upload
    cheating' taking place in the BitTorrent space, with clients such as
    BitTyrant and BitThief becoming more and more popular while at the
    same time disrupting the distribution economies of P2P networks.
    This has caused a great deal of consternation in the infringing-
    oriented P2P community of interest, with the developers/operators of
    various BitTorrent-type systems such as BitComet working at
    developing methods of detecting and blocking downloading from users
    who 'cheat' in this fashion; it is instructive (and more than a
    little ironic) to watch as various elements within the infringing-
    oriented P2P community attempt to outwit and police one another's
    behavior, especially when compared/contrasted with the same classes
    of ongoing conflict between the infringing-oriented P2P community,
    content producers, and SPs.

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