Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

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Date: Sun Jan 07 2007 - 09:34:09 EST

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    > > Note that video caching systems like P2P networks can
    > > potentially serve video to extremely large numbers of
    > > users while consuming reasonably low levels of upstream
    > > bandwidth.
    >
    > The total bandwidth used is the same though, no escaping
    > that, someone pays.

    This is not true. Increased bandwidth consumption does
    not necessarily cost money on most ISP infrastructure.
    At my home I have a fairly typical ISP service using
    BT's DSL. If I use a P2P network to download files from
    other BT DSL users, then it doesn't cost me a penny
    more than the basic DSL service. It also doesn't cost
    BT any more and it doesn't cost those users any more.
    The only time that costs increase is when I download
    data from outside of BT's network because the increased
    traffic reaquires larger circuits or more circuits, etc.

    The real problem with P2P networks is that they don't
    generally make download decisions based on network
    architecture. This is not inherent in the concept of
    P2P which means that it can be changed. It is perfectly
    possible to use existing P2P protocols in a way that is
    kind to an ISP's costs.

    > If it was only redistributed locally. Even in that case it's not
    > helping much as it still consumes the most expensive bandwidth (for UK
    > ADSL). Transit is way cheaper than BT ADSL wholesale, you're saving
    > something that's cheap.

    I have to admit that I have no idea how BT charges
    ISPs for wholesale ADSL. If there is indeed some kind
    of metered charging then Internet video will be a big
    problem for the business model.

    > Or the caches that are being sold to fudge the protocols to
    > keep it local but if you're buying them we could have just
    > as easily done http download and let it be cached by existing
    > appliances.

    The difference with P2P is that caching is built-in to
    the model, therefore 100% of users participate in
    caching. With HTTP, caches are far from universal,
    especially to non-business users.

    --Michael Dillon


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