Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

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Date: Sun Jan 07 2007 - 08:12:52 EST

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    > 2. The question I don't understand is, why stream? In these days, when
    a
    > terabyte disk for consumer PCs is about to be introduced, why bother
    with
    > streaming? It is so much simpler to download (at faster than real-time
    rates,
    > if possible), and play it back.

    Very good question. The fact is that people have
    been doing Internet TV without streaming for years
    now. That's why P2P networks use so much bandwidth.
    I've used it myself to download Russian TV shows
    that are not otherwise available here in England.
    Of course the P2P folks aren't just dumping raw DVB
    MPEG-2 streams onto the network. They are recompressing
    them using more advanced codecs so that they do not
    consume unreasonable amounts of bandwidth.

    Don't focus on the Venice project. They are just one
    of many groups trying to figure out how to make TV
    work on the Internet. Consumer ISPs need to do a better
    job of communicating to their customers the existence
    of GB/month bandwidth caps, the reason for the caps,
    how video over IP creates problems, and how to avoid
    those problems by using Video services which support
    high-compression codecs. If it is DVB, MPEG-2 or MPEG-1
    then it is BAD. Stay away.

    Look for DIVX, MP4 etc.

    Note that video caching systems like P2P networks can
    potentially serve video to extremely large numbers of
    users while consuming reasonably low levels of upstream
    bandwidth. The key is in the caching. One copy of BBC's
    Jan 8th evening news is downloaded to your local P2P
    network consuming upstream bandwidth. Then local users
    use local bandwidth to get copies of that broadcast over
    the next few days.

    For this to work, you need P2P software whose algorithms
    are geared to conserving upstream bandwidth. To date, the
    software developers do not work in cooperation with ISPs
    and therefore the P2P software is not as ISP-friendly as
    it could be. ISPs could change this by contacting P2P
    developers. One group that is experimenting with better
    algorithms is http://bittyrant.cs.washington.edu/

    --Michael Dillon


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