Re: advise on network security report

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Date: Wed Nov 01 2006 - 16:17:49 EST

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    On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:09:59 EST, Mike Callahan said:
    > Perhaps a better start on impacting this would be for the credit card
    > companies to pursue the people that abuse their cards/systems instead of
    > just writing fraudulent purchases off as a loss and not pursuing them
    > any further.

    Let's take a hypothetical $300 fraudulent charge. If the card company spends
    more than $300 pursuing it, it's losing money on it and is better off just
    swallowing it. Now what does $300 get you? If you're lucky, that gets you 5
    hours of a tech's time to chase logs, make phone calls, and get all the
    evidence together, and 1 hour of a lawyer's time to get the ball rolling if you
    pursue it as a civil matter.

    How much pursuit can you get done in 5 hours?

    The credit card companies are *acutely* aware of *exactly* how much it
    costs to swallow any given fraud, and how much it costs to chase a particular
    miscreant down. And barring some major economic/political/legal changes
    that alter the price/performance ratio, they're unlikely to change the way
    they do things.

    (Hint - $50B sounds like a lot, but what percent of the total Visa/MasterCard
    business per year is that, really? Not much compared against the $1,325B
    done by the top 4 card networks in 2004:

    http://www.fdic.gov/bank/analytical/banking/2005nov/Art2table1.html

    The whole article is here:

    http://www.fdic.gov/bank/analytical/banking/2005nov/article2.html

    and discusses in fair amount of detail what the credit card companies
    *really* worry about, and why....




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