RE: advise on network security report

From: Mike Callahan (no email)
Date: Wed Nov 01 2006 - 15:09:59 EST

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    >I beg to differ, wither I aggregate my announcements does not impact the
    >$50B charge identity theft puts on the US economy.

    Perhaps a better start on impacting this would be for the credit card companies to pursue the people that abuse their cards/systems instead of just writing fraudulent purchases off as a loss and not pursuing them any further. I been through it myself and I know for a fact that at least one major cc company operates in this way. In this model there's nothing to discourage someone from using stolen numbers. Just my $.02

    ~M

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [mailto:]On Behalf Of
    Rick Wesson
    Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:02 PM
    To: Barry Greene (bgreene)
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: advise on network security report

    Barry Greene (bgreene) wrote:
    > Postings like this to NANOG will not have any impact. So if your goal is
    > instigate action, posting is not going to work. The core data point is
    > the weekly CIDR report. It only works if you have peers using the weekly
    > list to apply peer pressure to the networks listed to act.

    I beg to differ, wither I aggregate my announcements does not impact the
    $50B charge identity theft puts on the US economy.

    would it assist if I associated a dollar value for each bot hosted, we
    can estimate the number of credit cards stolen per bot and extrapolate
    in to something with some zeros on it.

    > Sharing summaries to communities like dshield, NSP-SEC, DA, SANs and
    > other security mitigation communities along with a subscription web page
    > that would allow an organization to get enough details to take action.

    nsp-sec players still won't let us in their sand-box... but we will
    share to the communities you have enumerated.

    -rick


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