Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

From: Scott Weeks (no email)
Date: Wed Aug 02 2006 - 01:25:57 EDT

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    From: "Fergie" <>

    > >mentioned haven't worked at all. I'm just saying that
    > there >has to be a better way than police-type actions on
    > a global >scale. Also, I'm sure many more smart people

    > Personally, I think there is wiggle-room between what Gadi
    > surmises (persoanlly, I think he is playing Devil's
    > advocate), what everyone else may surmise as an effort
    > into nothingness, and what Vixie professes (if anyone
    > bothered to read what he forwarded -- I did, and very much
    > agree).

    I read it all carefully. Twice. I'm not taking sides here.
     Please don't put me in that position. I'm only beating a
    point to death. Common NANOG futility. You know the
    deal... :-)

     
    > I actually think there is _a_lot_ which can be, and should
    > be, done.

    What? That's what I'm trying to find out, but I'm not as
    smart as most, so I can only point out the things that I
    believe definitely won't work and why I think that.
    Hopefully by the application of flame to my butt by smart
    people for saying what I do will spark some thought toward
    the goal.

    > I actually think there is _a_lot_ which can be, and should
    > be, done.
    >
    > Turning a blind eye is unnacceptable, and right now, ISP's
    > are in the spotlight w.r.t. doing just that:

    > There is _major_ room for improvement, so I guess the
    > relevant question becomes: Are people part of the problem
    > or part of the solution?
    >
    > What's the measuring stick?

    I get a 1984-like mgmtspeak feeling here. I don't know how
    to respond except with this attempt (in order): what are
    some suggestions for the major improvement, people are both
    the problem and the solution (as in everything) and the
    measuring stick is a noticable decline in the nefarious
    deeds on the public internet.

    scott


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