Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

From: Scott Weeks (no email)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2006 - 17:50:56 EDT

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    From: Barry Shein <>

    > > That's all fine and dandy until you consider the
    > > international base of these things. I'd like to see

    > a meeting at the Massachussets state house probably around
    > 1998 and being shouted down by this reasoning for a few
    > minutes.
    >
    > Believe it or not spam is not the only internationalized
    > problem on this planet. There's drug trade, actual
    > high-seas piracy, slave trade, phone fraud, investment
    > fraud, and on and on.
    >
    > So the usual snappy response is: And look how well we do
    > with all that!
    >
    > Well, yes, you can make the best the enemy of the good.
    > But there's a logical fallacy involved in trying to
    > extrapolate that to "so therefore we should do nothing".

    I did not mean to shout anyone down by saying what I did
    and trying to extrapolate to 'therefore we should do
    nothing'. I also did not mean to imply sloppy writing.
    For sure, it's more my misunderstanding than either of
    those. Also, it was an interesting article. I only
    meant that meatspace asskicking probably won't get us
    very far, especially in light of current intercountry
    cooperation. Also, wouldn't it just teach them what
    countries to focus their efforts on similar to the
    context of the article? I just hope to inject that
    there has to be a technical way to do this, rather
    than a diplomatic way as the diplomatic ways historically
    have not worked in the other areas mentioned, so they
    probably won't work here, either. Or we have to keep
    going until one can be contrived. Many good attempts
    have been made and there will be more to come until we
    hopefully rid ourselves of the sickness others of lower
    values force on us daily.

    scott
    (quickly putting on flameproof underware... ;)


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