Re: OT: Xen

From: Todd Vierling (no email)
Date: Mon Apr 03 2006 - 09:25:40 EDT

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    On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, David Lesher wrote:

    > Panix is offering Xen-based virtual servers. I mention same here
    > only because I've seen almost no discussion of virtualized servers,
    > and hope to learn from the surely-resulting flameware....
    >
    > http://www.panix.com/corp/virtuals/

    Xen and similar solutions are gaining popularity because they work on a
    similar model as that used for ADSL: most users don't use all the resources
    all the time. By virtualizing, the provider can offer "dedicated
    colocation" at a somewhat lower cost to the user, and a *much* lower cost to
    the provider. If properly provisioned, by distributing more heavily loaded
    virtual machines appropriately, you can probably attain virtualization of
    20-30 or more per 2-way or 2-dual-core SMP box and still have CPU left over.

    Note that Xen in particular has major advantages over some similar products
    because it eliminates CPU-consuming system trap hackery needed to emulate
    hardware devices and page-table mappings. Xen is not, however, backed with
    extensive commercial support (XenSource is still evolving at the moment),
    lacks easy integration into popular UI/control-panel products, and requires
    special kernels for the contained OS's (not such a big deal in practice).

    The current problems haven't stopped some early adopters from trying out
    Xen. By and large, those who were once using UML[*] and have now tried Xen
    have switched and not looked back.

    [*] User Mode Linux, which I went out of my way to heckle (with technically
        sound arguments, mind you) at an IETF when it was proposed as a method
        of virtualization. The sad part is, some folks bought the drivel and
        actually set up businesses using UML as a virtualization layer.

    -- 
    -- Todd Vierling <> <> <>
    

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