Re: shim6 @ NANOG

From: Owen DeLong (no email)
Date: Wed Mar 08 2006 - 01:32:42 EST

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    --On March 7, 2006 4:29:28 PM +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum
    <> wrote:

    > On 6-mrt-2006, at 22:08, Owen DeLong wrote:
    >
    >>> What I hear is "any type of geography can't work because network
    >>> topology != geography". That's like saying cars can't work
    >>> because they
    >>> can't drive over water which covers 70% of the earth's surface.
    >
    >> No, it's more like saying "Cars which can't operate off of freeways
    >> won't work" because there are a lot of places freeways don't go.
    >> Hmmm... Come to think of it, I haven't seen anyone selling a car
    >> which won't operate off of a freeway.
    >
    > If we slightly open this up to "vehicles on wheels" and "long distance
    > infrastructure created specially for said vehicles" trains would
    > qualify...
    >
    True, and, a good case in point. A relatively small percentage of the
    US population finds trains routinely useful. An even smaller percentage
    (infinitessimal, actually) finds them useful enough to not have a car.

    >> I've got no opposition to issuing addresses based on some geotop.
    >> design,
    >> simply because on the off chance it does provide useful
    >> aggregation, why
    >> not.
    >
    > Exactly, that's all I ask.
    >
    >> OTOH, I haven't seen anyone propose geotop allocation as a policy
    >> in the ARIN region (hint to those pushing for it).
    >
    > Hm, I would rather do this globally but maybe this is the way to go...

    The only way to achieve global policy is to achieve a similar policy in
    each RIR and then get them to agree on a globally consistent one together.
    This is by design because it is a process which allows each region to
    have full input into the process without the stakeholders in any region
    being steamrolled by the needs of another region.

    Owen




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