Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

From: Marshall Eubanks (no email)
Date: Fri Mar 03 2006 - 15:37:11 EST

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    On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:55 AM, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

    >
    >
    > On 2 mar 2006, at 06.16, Kevin Day wrote:
    >
    >> No, I'm just trying to be practical here... Estimates of IPv4 pool
    >> exhaustion range from Mid 2008 (Tony Hain's ARIN presentation) to
    >> roughly 2012 (Geoff Huston's ARIN presentation). Sooner if a mad
    >> dash for space starts happening (or isn't happening already).
    >>
    >> Does anyone here really believe that there is time for:
    >
    > So what I think we might need (that I wrote in an internet-draft
    > some years ago) is the following things in exactly this order :
    >
    > 0. PI space with an artifically high barrier on entry yet available
    > when needed (read cost+administration=LIR or equiv.).
    > 1. Ducttape ala shim6
    > 2. One of breakthrough in graph-theory or a completely new
    > addressing/routing paradigm. Most like the latter.
    >

    I will bet anyone reading this $ 20 USD right now that what will
    actually happen is
    the development of a spot market in IPv4 address space.

    Regards
    Marshall

    > That will take us past IPv4 exhaustion+IPv6 initial deployment,
    > through wider uptake through to the 10-15 years from now when we
    > might have an idea of what 2 is. I used to believe that it would
    > take 10 years to deploy a standardised version of a stack change, I
    > must say I changing my mind and I am starting to agree with however
    > said that we just need to wait for the next <insert favourite OS>
    > major security hole+patch.
    >
    > - kurtis -
    >


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