Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

From: Christian Kuhtz (no email)
Date: Wed Mar 01 2006 - 01:06:53 EST

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    On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:00 AM, Joe Abley wrote:

    >
    >
    > On 28-Feb-2006, at 23:37, Daniel Golding wrote:
    >
    >> Unacceptable. This is the whole problem with shim6 - the IETF
    >> telling us to
    >> "sit back and enjoy it, because your vendors know what's best".
    >
    > Actually, I think the problem with shim6 is that there are far too
    > few operators involved in designing it. This has evidently led to a
    > widespread perception of an ivory tower with a moat around it.

    One man's perception is another man's reality. ;-)

    > If these operators dismiss it out of hand on principal, and refuse
    > to actually find out whether the general approach is able to solve
    > problems or not, then irrelevance does indeed seem inevitable.
    > However, the only alternative on the table is a v6 swamp.

    Would that really be so bad? I keep being bonked on the head by this
    thing called Moore's law.

    I think until you slay the daemon of default global reachability
    (which is counter to everything IP), draining the swamp is an
    exercise in futility. Controlling the flooding OTOH is a creative
    posture.


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