Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?

From: Martin Hannigan (no email)
Date: Wed Feb 08 2006 - 00:00:30 EST

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    At 11:27 PM 2/7/2006, Nick Feamster wrote:

    >Martin Hannigan wrote:
    >
    >>My answer, in short, was to say that I see it as more of an enterprise
    >>play because it's a managed service and the hardest part of
    >>provisioning is typically the order cycle.
    >>If you are an ISP, you are theoretically multi homed by definition
    >>and your providers are going to remain fairly stable (you hope)
    >>based on your own needs.
    >
    >My point remains: designs based on such assumptions are not a good
    >idea, since these assumptions are by no means fundamental and could
    >certainly change. People get creative with how they announce
    >prefixes, change upstreams, etc., and you can't assume that things
    >like this would stay the way they are.

    Nick:

    I wouldn't call them assumptions. I would call them engineering
    decisions in operational
    environments. I guess I fail to see where a commodity market with a
    broker adding a vig
    resolves a real network problem. I'm think tier1? They aren't buying
    service from anyone
    on Equinix direct and move/add/drop is just another day on the
    Internet. I really can't see
    any provider doing it, but perhaps smaller ones. *shrug*. I don't
    know why you wouldn't
    make temporary arrangements via peering fabric, PNI, or transit and
    eliminate the middle
    man (point of failure).

    >As an aside, another question occurred to me about delaying unusual
    >announcements. Boeing Connexion offers another example of
    >unorthodox prefix announcements. Wouldn't the tactic of delaying
    >unusual announcements would cause problems for this service?

    [ snip ]

    -M<

    >-Nick

    Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663
    Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574
    Member of Technical Staff Network Operations
                                                      


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