Re: Clueless anti-virus products/vendors (was Re: Sober)

From: Edward B. Dreger (eddy+public+)
Date: Wed Dec 07 2005 - 21:06:40 EST

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    DO> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:02:51 -0800
    DO> From: Douglas Otis

    DO> > Hmmmm. BATV-triggered bounces. Virus triggers forged bounce which in
    DO> > turn triggers "your DSN was misguided" bounce. Perhaps the bandwidth
    DO> > growth of the '90s will continue. ;-)
    DO>
    DO> BATV should not trigger any bounce as this only changes the local-part of
    DO> the bounce-address (a.k.a return-path). BATV allows quick rejection of the
    DO> session when a spoof is detected before any message is exchanged. This

    I've read the spec.

    DO> should alleviate your concerns about bandwidth. It would also depreciate

    I usually don't use humor-related smileys when I'm worried.

    DO> this tactic and further reduce related traffic. Being sensitive about
    DO> spoofed DSNs, one would expect to hear accolades for BATV rather than
    DO> berating.

    Wouldn't it be nice to let people know their DSNs are misplaced? Or
    does that only apply to viruses and worms? ;-)

    So much for "be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you
    accept". Yes, BATV helps block the errant DSNs. It's just a shame that
    we seem to be shifting responsibility to the recipient, treating the
    symptom instead of the disease.

    Eddy

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