Re: Clueless anti-virus products/vendors (was Re: Sober)

From: Larry Smith (no email)
Date: Sun Dec 04 2005 - 22:44:08 EST

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    On Sunday 04 December 2005 21:27, Church, Chuck wrote:
    > What about all the viruses out there that don't forge addresses?
    > Sending a warning message makes sense for these. Unless someone has
    > done the research to determine the majority of viruses forge addresses,
    > you really can't complain about the fact that the default is to warn.
    > Calling vendors 'clueless' because a default doesn't match your needs is
    > a little extreme, don't you think? The ideal solution would be for the
    > scanning software to send a warning only if the virus detected is known
    > to use real addresses, otherwise it won't warn.

    True, but the "capability" has been in most AV software for quite a long time
    now to know which ones "forge" and which do not. Clamav has a "list" of
    which virii are "forging" and which are not - I am reasonably certain that
    most other AV products have the same information at hand (a quick search of
    Symantec confirms that they know [ref sober worm, para 23, From:
    (spoofed)). So while I agree with your basic concept of notifying someone
    that they are infected - when you can notify the "right" person - blanket
    notifications are more trouble than the virus itself in many cases. And yes,
    as of yesterday I have more "blowback" from sober than from the worm
    itself....

    -- 
    Larry Smith
    SysAd ECSIS.NET
    

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