Re: Clueless anti-virus products/vendors (was Re: Sober)

From: W.D.McKinney (no email)
Date: Fri Dec 02 2005 - 19:45:05 EST

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    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Daniel Senie [mailto:]
    >Sent: Friday, December 2, 2005 11:27 AM
    >To:
    >Subject: Clueless anti-virus products/vendors (was Re: Sober)
    >
    >
    >At 03:12 PM 12/2/2005, Michael Loftis wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>--On December 2, 2005 2:02:15 PM -0600 Dennis Dayman
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>Interested, but I see many Sober postings and outages on other lists and
    >>>not here...has anyone been having issues? I know the ISP's are fighting
    >>>the living out of the virus.
    >>
    >>I've been seeing a few really large bursts into our mailserver. Not
    >>sure if it's a new variant or a reoccurrence of an old strain. I
    >>put in a good number of new port 25 inbound blocks for infected
    >>systems and attempted to put up a few checks inside of our front end
    >>mail servers rather than in the virus and spam filtering (which
    >>happens later for us, so for bad surges we put a few custom rules up
    >>front early in postfix).
    >
    >Only stuff we're seeing is a lot of blowback from dumb mail systems
    >that accept email, THEN scan for viruses, and ultimately decide to
    >send a note back to the From: address in the body of the infected
    >email. Since the From: is invariably forged, the uninvolved owner of
    >those forged email addresses gets hammered.
    >
    >Can people building virus scanning devices PLEASE GET A %^&*^ CLUE?
    >This means you, Barricuda Networks, more than anyone else, but we
    >also see this annoyance from Symantec devices, and from some AOL
    >systems as well.
    >

    It's a simple switch in the GUI of Barracuda Networks to turn of this annoyance. More operator error than Barracuda's fault, IMHO.

    -Dee

    >Blasting a note back does two things:
    >
    >1. It allows the worm or virus author an opportunity to implement an
    >amplified attack on a third party using your filtering systems.
    >
    >2. The bounce messages mostly include an advertisement for the
    >filtering box's vendor. Get a clue... this is a REALLY negative
    >advertisement for your spam & virus filtering technology. If you
    >can't manage to realize the virus laden email should perhaps be
    >dropped, then it makes your box look poorly designed.
    >
    >Oh, and please delete the infected file rather than sending that along too.
    >
    >OK, off my soapbox.
    >
    >Dan
    >
    >


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