RE: QoS for ADSL customers

From: Ejay Hire (no email)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 08:41:18 EST

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    I got an off-list reply about using Nbar, but I've never
    seen a class map that would match torrent.

    -e

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [mailto:]
    On
    > Behalf Of Kim Onnel
    > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:12 AM
    > To: Ejay Hire
    > Cc: NANGO
    > Subject: Re: QoS for ADSL customers
    >
    > Our ADSL customers traffic is 3 OC3 worth of traffic, I
    dont
    > think our management would buy the idea.
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    > On 12/1/05, Ejay Hire <> wrote:
    >
    > Hello.
    >
    > Going back to your original question, how to keep
    from
    > saturating the network with residential users using
    > bittorrent/edonkey et al, while suffocating business
    > customers. Here goes.
    >
    > Netfilter/IpTables (and a slew of commercial
    products I'm
    > sure) has a Layer 7 traffic classifier, meaning it
    can
    > identify specific file transfer applications and set
    a
    > DiffServ bit. This means it can tell between a real
    http
    > request and a edonkey transfer, even if they are
    both using
    > http. It also has rate-limiting capability. So...
    If you
    > pass all of the traffic destined for your DSL
    customers
    > through an iptables box (single point of failure)
    then you
    > can classify and rate-limit the downstream rate on a

    > per-application basis.
    >
    > Fwiw, if you are using diffserv bits, you could push
    the
    > rate-limits down to the router with a qos policy in
    it
    > instead of doing it all in the iptables box.
    >
    > References on this.. The netfilter website (for
    > classification info) and the Linux advanced router
    tools
    > (LART) (qos info/rate limiting)
    >
    > -e
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From:
    [mailto:]
    > On
    > > Behalf Of Kim Onnel
    > > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:26 AM
    > > To: NANGO
    > > Subject: Re: QoS for ADSL customers
    > >
    > > Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or
    none
    > > solution to cap the download stream traffic, our
    upstream
    > > will not recieve marked traffic from us, so what
    can be
    > done ?
    > >
    > >
    > > On 11/29/05, Kim Onnel <>
    wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello everyone,
    > >
    > > We have Juniper ERX as BRAS for ADSL, its
    GigE
    > > interface is on an old Cisco 3508 switch with an
    old IOS,
    > its
    > > gateway to the internet is a 7609, our transit
    internet
    > links
    > > terminate on GigaE, Flexwan on the 7600
    > >
    > > The links are now almost always fully
    utilized, we
    > want
    > > to do some QoS to cap our ADSL downstream, to give
    room
    > for
    > > the Corp. customers traffic to flow without pain.
    > >
    > > I'm here to collect ideas, comments, advises
    and
    > > experiences for such situations.
    > >
    > > Our humble approach was to collect some p2p
    ports
    > and
    > > police traffic to these ports, but the traffic
    wasnt much,
    >
    > > one other thing is rate-limiting per ADSL
    customers IPs,
    > but
    > > that wasnt supported by management, so we thought
    of
    > matching
    > > ADSL www traffic and doing exceed action is
    transmit, and
    > > police other IP traffic.
    > >
    > > Doing so on the ERX wasnt a nice experience,
    so
    > we're
    > > trying to do it on the cisco.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


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