Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now

From: Patrick W. Gilmore (no email)
Date: Tue Nov 01 2005 - 09:40:09 EST

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    On Nov 1, 2005, at 7:53 AM, John Curran wrote:

    > At 12:27 PM +0000 11/1/05, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
    >> Hi John,
    >>
    >>> Even with cold-potato routing, there is an expense in handling
    >>> increased
    >>> levels of traffic that is destined for your network. This
    >>> increase in traffic
    >>> often has no new revenue associated with it, because it is
    >>> fanning out to
    >>> thousands of flat-rate consumer/small-business connections (e.g.
    >>> DSL)
    >>> where billing is generally by peak capacity not usage.
    >>
    >> not true for cogent tho, we know that virtually all their traffic
    >> is usage based
    >> transit customers
    >
    > The traffic from Cogent creates additional infrastructure
    > requirements on L3.
    > L3 may (or may not) be able to recover these costs as incremental
    > revenue
    > from the recipients, depending on the particulars of their
    > agreements. One
    > way of mitigating their exposure is to set an upper bound on
    > uncompensated
    > inbound traffic.
    >
    > Mind you, this is entirely hypothetical, as specifics of the Cogent/
    > L3 agreement
    > are not available. However, it is one way to let everyone "bill
    > and keep" for
    > Internet traffic without an unlimited exposure, and it is an
    > approach that has
    > been used successfully in the past.

    Taking L3 & Cogent completely out of this discussion, I'm not sure I
    agree with your assessment.

    I think everyone agrees that unbalanced ratios can create a situation
    where one side pays more than the other. However, assuming something
    can be used to keep the costs equal (e.g. cold-potato?), I do not see
    how one network can tell another: "You can't send me what my
    customers are requesting of you."

    If your business model is to provide flat-rate access, it is not _my_
    responsibility to ensure your customers do not use more access than
    your flat-rate can compensate you to deliver.

    -- 
    TTFN,
    patrick
    

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