Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

From: Patrick W. Gilmore (no email)
Date: Wed Oct 05 2005 - 15:51:34 EDT

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    On Oct 5, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote:

    > Exactly. And this is why Cogent's statement to the public (and their
    > customers) is an outright lie. Level 3 isn't "denying Level 3's
    > customers access to Cogent's customers and denying Cogent's customers
    > access to Level 3 customers.". It's just that they deny Cogent
    > settlement-free direct peering anymore. Cogent can get the L3 and L3
    > customer routes elsewhere if they want. But Cogent doesn't. It's
    > Cogents
    > decision to break connectivity, not L3's.

    I think you and I have a different definition of "deny" and "decision".

    Cogent was connected to L3. Level 3 TOOK ACTIVE STEPS to sever that
    relationship. Cogent, this moment, has their routers, ports, and
    configurations ready, willing, and able to accept and send packets to
    and from L3.

    Please explain to me why you think Cogent is the bad actor here?

    By your logic, Level 3 is denying customers access to Cogent because
    they are perfectly capable of buying transit from Verio.

    All that said, it is entirely possible L3 was justified in their
    actions because Cogent was abusing the peering relationship. For
    instance, Cogent may have been forcing L3 to carry long haul traffic
    for Cogent instead of buying their own fiber / routers / whatever.
    If so, L3 probably feels their decision to terminate the peering
    relationship is on sound moral, ethical, and financial ground.

    However, L3 still typed in the config lines which caused this
    bifurcation. Whether that makes it their "fault" is open to debate.
    But it certainly is not Cogent's fault just 'cause Cogent can buy
    transit - so can L3.

    -- 
    TTFN,
    patrick
    

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