RE: More on Vonage service disruptions...

From: Church, Chuck (no email)
Date: Wed Mar 02 2005 - 10:46:05 EST

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    Those are good points. Someone last week mentioned what I thought was a
    great list of priorities for an ISP:
    1. Keep the network running
    2. Remove those violating policies
    3. Route packets
    (or something along those lines)

            A 30/50/90 kbps unicast stream isn't going to affect #1. I
    don't think any policies involved in #2 would cover a VoIP service
    either. That should leave #3 as the default for this traffic. I can
    picture a DDOS where infected Windows machines could send bogus SIP
    traffic to Vonage servers; in this case temporary blocking might be
    needed/justified. But until that happens, blocking SIP is just wrong.
    Another thing for an ISP considering blocking VoIP is the fact that
    you're cutting off people's access to 911. That alone has got to have
    some tough legal ramifications. I can tell you that if my ISP started
    blocking my Vonage, my next cell phone call would be my attorney...

    Chuck Church
    Lead Design Engineer
    CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
    Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team
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    Greenville, SC 29609
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    -----Original Message-----
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    Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
    Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:46 AM
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    Subject: More on Vonage service disruptions...

    advancedIPpipeline is running another article this morning
    in their series of articles covering the Vonage service
    disruptions that [allegedly] invlove an ISP "port blocking"
    SIP connectitity between Vonage's client equipment and
    Vonage's servers. While there is a bit more decriptive
    detail in this article involving the nature of the service
    interruptions, Vonage's CEO, Jeffrey Citron, is trying
    to make a [in my opinion] weak argument that this type
    of traffic blocking is akin to censorship.

    http://www.advancedippipeline.com/news/60404589

    The silliness of the "censorship" argument aside, an
    interesting snippet within this article started me
    thinking abut the "slippery slope" which might
    ensue if any type of legislation is enacted which
    would attempt to prohibit an ISP from blocking
    traffic in an effort to keep it [unwanted traffic]
    from traversing their network:

     "'It'd be unfortunate to have to pass a law [against
     port blocking and other types of interference], but
     we may have to,' Citron said. Though he said he has
     previously testified against the need for port-blocking
     regulation, Citron may now change that tune, especially
     if more network operators start using port-blocking or
     other techniques to selectively control Internet
     traffic."

    It looks to me like this is going to open up a huge can
    of worms. On one hand, you have ISP's who own their own
    infrastructure and have every right to prohibit traffic
    from traversing their network which does not conform to
    their AUP, business practices, technical standards, etc.,
    or provide revenue. By the same token, and specifically
    when it comes to things like VoIP, we have these issues
    involving PUC's, FCC regulations, "equal access" rights,
    etc.

    IANAL (or a policy wonk), and I hope I'm wrong, but it
    certainly looks like things could get pretty ugly.

    - ferg

    --
    "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
     Engineering Architecture for the Internet
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