Re: Internet Email Services Association

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Date: Tue Mar 01 2005 - 11:39:33 EST

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    > | The key thing here is that there is some kind of contractual agreement
    > | between the second tier and the core members. If the second tier
    breaks
    > | the agreement, their email flow is summarily cut off. You can do that
    > | with contracts.
    >
    > Yup.
    >
    > As you've mentioned, we already have a mechanism for peering between
    > providers - it's called BGP. Is it too much to ask for BGP peering
    > contracts to include requirements to deal with abuse ?

    Yes, I think that it is too much to ask for.
    Abuse has little to no impact on peering beyond
    minor traffic increments. Why should a BGP peering
    contract place a lot of importance on this? Certainly,
    BGP peering contracts do include some mention of
    abuse contacts and so on, but it is a side issue.

    However, when you consider email services, it
    is a different story. Whether it is abuse or
    whether it is shoddy email operations or whether
    it is misconfigured email server software, it WILL
    create major impacts on the quality of the email
    service. Most of this isn't even noticed by the
    NOC because they only care that packets flow smoothly.
    In order to improve the quality of Internet email
    service, we need more than the smooth flow of packets.
    We need the right packets in the right place at
    the right time, and only the right packets.

    --Michael Dillon
     


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