Re: High volume WHOIS queries

From: Stephen J. Wilcox (no email)
Date: Tue Mar 01 2005 - 04:53:42 EST

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    altho arguably its not up to arin to provide processing power for all these
    deployments.

    if you can get a local copy why not have your clients resolve back to that?

    Steve

    On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, joe mcguckin wrote:

    >
    >
    > How about caching the data from previous ARIN whois lookups?
    >
    > I do agree that the bulk data and high volume limitations on whois servers
    > are silly...
    >
    > -joe
    >
    >
    > On 2/28/05 1:30 PM, "Dan Lockwood" <> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I'm in a disagreement with ARIN about my application for bulk whois
    > > data. I've got a software program that needs resolve AS numbers to the
    > > Company Name of the owner. The software app has need to do this on a
    > > very high volume. E.g. I run a report that returns the top 100 AS
    > > destinations for my network and I want to resolve the numbers to the
    > > names as part of the report generation. Since ARIN throttles the number
    > > of queries that you can execute against their servers I seems to "just
    > > make sense" that you would do the processing using local data.
    > >
    > > That is all fine and good, but the problem comes when I distribute the
    > > software to users. ARIN's AUP for bulk whois states:
    > >
    > > "Redistributing bulk ARIN WHOIS data is explicitly forbidden. It is
    > > permissible to publish the data on an individual query or
    > > small number of queries at a time basis, as long as reasonable
    > > precautions are taken to prevent automated querying by
    > > database harvesters."
    > >
    > > My original AUP application stated that I would transfer the data to the
    > > users using an XML file on a regular basis. Clearly in violation of the
    > > first point. Fine. But now after a phone conversation they are telling
    > > me that I can not operate a server to distribute the data on a "per
    > > query" basis too. Providing a server that answers whois queries just
    > > like ARIN seems to be clearly permissible based on the remaining AUP
    > > verbage. At this point the only thing I can get out of the guy/gal on
    > > the phone is "NO!".
    > >
    > > Does anyone have any experience doing something like this? How about a
    > > sanity check? Am I completely wrong in how I'm interpreting the AUP?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Dan
    > >
    >
    >


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