From: joe mcguckin (no email)
Date: Tue Mar 01 2005 - 04:12:11 EST
How about caching the data from previous ARIN whois lookups?
I do agree that the bulk data and high volume limitations on whois servers
are silly...
-joe
On 2/28/05 1:30 PM, "Dan Lockwood" <> wrote:
>
> I'm in a disagreement with ARIN about my application for bulk whois
> data. I've got a software program that needs resolve AS numbers to the
> Company Name of the owner. The software app has need to do this on a
> very high volume. E.g. I run a report that returns the top 100 AS
> destinations for my network and I want to resolve the numbers to the
> names as part of the report generation. Since ARIN throttles the number
> of queries that you can execute against their servers I seems to "just
> make sense" that you would do the processing using local data.
>
> That is all fine and good, but the problem comes when I distribute the
> software to users. ARIN's AUP for bulk whois states:
>
> "Redistributing bulk ARIN WHOIS data is explicitly forbidden. It is
> permissible to publish the data on an individual query or
> small number of queries at a time basis, as long as reasonable
> precautions are taken to prevent automated querying by
> database harvesters."
>
> My original AUP application stated that I would transfer the data to the
> users using an XML file on a regular basis. Clearly in violation of the
> first point. Fine. But now after a phone conversation they are telling
> me that I can not operate a server to distribute the data on a "per
> query" basis too. Providing a server that answers whois queries just
> like ARIN seems to be clearly permissible based on the remaining AUP
> verbage. At this point the only thing I can get out of the guy/gal on
> the phone is "NO!".
>
> Does anyone have any experience doing something like this? How about a
> sanity check? Am I completely wrong in how I'm interpreting the AUP?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
-- Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications 994 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 Phone: 650-213-1302 Cell: 650-207-0372 Fax: 650-969-2124
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