RE: Proposed list charter/AUP change?

From: Ejay Hire (no email)
Date: Tue Jan 04 2005 - 18:34:38 EST

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    I second this request.

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [mailto:]
    On
    > Behalf Of Bill Nash
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:51 AM
    > To: Steve Sobol
    > Cc: Susan Harris; ; Betty Burke
    > Subject: Proposed list charter/AUP change?
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Steve Sobol wrote:
    > > Susan keeps on claiming spam is offtopic for Nanog, yet
    the
    > AUP/Charter/FAQ
    > > don't mention spam other than telling us not to ask "I'm

    > being spammed, how
    > > can I make it stop?"
    > >
    > > If it's flat-out offtopic, no matter what, or if the
    > majority of list members
    > > don't want to talk about it on the list, why hasn't the
    FAQ
    > been updated? Or
    > > does Merit just want us to try to guess what is
    offtopic?
    > >
    >
    > Spam represents a significant percentage of email traffic,
    and its
    > delivery is increasingly via trojaned dsl/broadband
    devices.
    > Even spam
    > delivered from quasi-legitimate sources is usually an
    abuse
    > of resources
    > that some NSP/ISP is paying for. Discussion of functional
    > spam control at
    > the ISP level, I think, is absolutely on topic for a list
    of
    > this scope.
    > Please note, that I say 'functional'. Random complaints
    would
    > obviously
    > not fall into this category.
    >
    > Examples would include:
    > Working enterprise-scale spam filtering (Hourly mail
    volume
    > measured in
    > thousands)
    > Discussion of edge/core SMTP filtering to curtail spam
    sources.
    > Policy discussions for handling domestic and international

    > spam sources.
    > Implementation, or requests for implementation, of SPF and
    similiar
    > controls.
    > Inter-network cooperation for handling large scale issues.
    >
    > I think this last is pretty much exactly what a list like
    > this is for, be
    > it spam, regional power outages, BGP shenanigans, or
    > widespread squirrel
    > detonations.
    >
    > - billn


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