RE: Peering point speed publicly available?

From: Stephen J. Wilcox (no email)
Date: Fri Jul 02 2004 - 02:12:18 EDT


Of course individual links are likely to have little difference .. it'll come
down to a combination of the smallest link between source and destination and
the end to end latency.

Steve

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Cody Lerum wrote:

> Work with the network operators on each side of the link to determine the
> speed/load. For the most part if they really want your business, they will be
> able to provide something.
>
> The main reason link speed maybe important to me would serialization delay on
> the circuit. OC-768 should be much lower latency than a T1...unless your are
> at the end of the queue :-)
>
> Latency is probably be your primary concern for large TCP transfers anyway.
>
> -C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Li [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:02 PM
> To: Cody Lerum
> Cc: ; ;
> Subject: Re: Peering point speed publicly available?
>
>
> Is it really important to know the link speeds? What good does it do
> without knowing
> about the loading on those links?
>
> I would MUCH rather have an empty T1 than have to contend with a very
> oversubscribed OC-768.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2004, at 5:25 PM, Cody Lerum wrote:
>
> > DNS can sometimes give you a hint
> >  
> > [my nets snipped]
> >  4 t3-1-2-0.ar2.SEA1.gblx.net (64.211.206.113)  20.436 ms  18.309 ms 
> > 17.605 ms   <------------DS3
> >  5  so1-0-0-2488M.ar4.SEA1.gblx.net (67.17.71.210)  17.607 ms  16.982
> > ms  16.971 ms  <-----OC-48
> >  6  p3-3.IR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net (206.111.7.5)  17.864 ms  19.491 ms 
> > 17.181 ms
> >  7  p5-1-0-3.RAR1.Seattle-WA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.197)  17.723 ms 
> > 17.632 ms  19.045 ms
> >  8  65.106.0.50 (65.106.0.50)  38.133 ms  39.197 ms  49.961 ms    
> > MPLS Label=101549 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
> >  9  p0-0-0d0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.1.61)  37.669 ms 
> > 38.572 ms  36.517 ms
> > 10  p7-0.DCR1.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.2.146)  37.830 ms 
> > 36.524 ms  37.743 ms
> > 11  ge1-1.CDR2.DC-SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (209.220.168.10)  38.428 ms 
> > 38.050 ms  37.179 ms <-----Gig Ethernet
> > 12  205.158.6.100.ptr.us.xo.net (205.158.6.100)  40.179 ms  39.784 ms 
> > 39.444 ms
> > 13  x218.cd9e6c.sj.concentric.net (205.158.108.218)  39.188 ms  39.723
> > ms  39.895 ms
> >  
> > However MPLS hidden hops may hide internal paths, and any connection
> > may be limited to slower than its line rate, and dns entries may be
> > old....
> >  
> > It's not publicly available at one source that I'm aware of, and if
> > there is they don't have my info.
> >  
> > -C
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf
> > Of Erik Amundson
> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:10 PM
> > To:
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Peering point speed publicly available?
> >
> >
> > NANOG,
> >
> >  
> >
> > I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering
> > relationships.  Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships
> > public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this?  By speed, I mean
> > bandwidth (DS3, OC3, 100Mbps, 1Gbps, etc.).  I am trying to transfer
> > large stuff from my AS, through my ISP, through another ISP, to
> > another AS, and I'm wondering how fast the peering point is between
> > the ISPs.  I'm working with my provider to get this information as we
> > speak, but I'm wondering if it's available publicly anywhere.  If it
> > were, this could be one way to evaluate providers in the future, I
> > guess...
> >
> >  
> >
> > Erik Amundson
> > A+, N+, CCNA, CCNP
> > IT and Network Manager
> > Open Access Technology Int'l, Inc.
> > Phone (763) 201-2005
> > Fax (763) 553-2813
> > mailto:
> >
> >  
>
>
>
>








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